https://prism-break.org/en/all/

Nope. Please don't! " #deleteFacebook - join #Diaspora"

Delete your Facebook account, think about your online behavior and especially your "social media behavior" for at least 90 days. (90 days is as far as i know the time you can recover your facebook account.)
And then maybe remember Diaspora an try it out with a new attitude!

Steemit takes a long time to confirm or deny invitation requests in signups.

Any reddit alternative?

@kerouac_jack@despora.de Voat.co is the only one I've heard of, not sure if there's a GNU equivalent

preaching to the choir here, but hopefully those still in fascbork will pass it on to the rest who need to hear it, n hopefully fascbork will be nice enough to let them see it.

I am not really a big Tox fan. Most of the software is so buggy, you could ride dunes with it!
A few friends and I started using Conversations, which is now the primary IM at my place of work too! Conversations is basically an XMPP-client for Android and includes all the good stuff: Among them is OMEMO encryption, which allows you to use multiple clients and keep them im sync (I have a phone, a tablet and several desktop clients @home and @work).

A few friends and I started using Conversations, which is now the primary IM at my place of work too! Conversations is basically an XMPP-client for Android and includes all the good stuff: Among them is OMEMO encryption, which allows you to use multiple clients and keep them im sync (I have a phone, a tablet and several desktop clients @home and @work).

"all the good stuff"... like the 4 freedoms of Free Software?

I've been playing around with Wickr for messaging and liking it a bunch...EFF gives it 5 stars...

While I see what Wickr has done, I have some standards of my own. Among them is that both the server and the client should be open source. Ideally the whole system should be decentralized. While I haven't checked Wickr in depth, it looks to me a lot like Threema, which is a secure messenger from Switzerland. This alone makes it hard for the NSA to barge to anything there. But Threema also promises not to sell out the users. I think it's pretty interesting that neither Threema nor Signal (Open Whisper Systems) are on the EFF's list.

Conversations - or the other messengers of its ilk like ChatSecure and Pix Art Messenger - are all open source, the servers are open source too (usually ejabberd or prosody) and the whole system is by design decentralized.

The choice to use it for work came when my CEO went on a business trip to China last year. Messages that were sent via Whatsapp got lost more often than not. Even if Whatsapp is encrypted now, tracking and identifying the messages as such isn't much of a problem due to their nature. So I am guessing, the Chinese government decided to block this form of communication as well as they could. I do not recall losing a single message sent via XMPP - including binaries. Ok, there was some lag in the connection which meant messages could take up to 30 seconds to arrive, but they always did.

#deleteWhatsapp - join #Tox

Did someone hat a look at RIOT?
https://about.riot.im/
Any good?

Duckduckgo : NOOO ! Duck is Yahoo’s and E-Bay’s and Yandex’s business partner, use Amazon servers…(source : article on fossforce.com, 07 30 2016)

@Heiner Mustermann happy riot/matrix user here. Replace messenger/discord/whatsapp perfectly

#deleteGoogle - join #qwant

@rhone_lola@framasphere.org duck ??
Which one do I use?

haha. good on-topic jokes on #TelepathicCommunication

(replied here, because momentarily having difficulty sending through the #TelepathicCommunication network.)

;-D

#TelepathicCommunication
make sure you are in the same multiverse .. otherwise ..

btw
I'M WITH YOU ON THAT *Miller!

help it's an invasion of fakebookbrainwashed mono sapiens! ..

#steemit wants your phone number and has also some other way to restrictive censorship like issues, still not convinced about that train ..

Hi, Kuhl info. Many thanks b1ackbird Ⓐ.D. ..... Dhan

The #TelepathicCommunication and other supra-senses is not a joke. It is a reality. See in spanish:

• Mexican Children come and read with the eyes closed.
• Telepathy and tele-empathy.
• Human-animal communication.
• Workshop telepathy animal in Queretaro city.
• Psychotronic.

Elon Musk pulls brands from Facebook

alois@framasphere.org
so why is everybody talking about singnal and not so much about #riot??

please b1ackbird, the enemy is listening ..

@Christian Baer I have degrees of separation from the existing systems that I'm happy with. Ideally the client and server software would be open source. However my primary thing is to avoid businesses that have it's so-called users really being their product and that the system is not a haven for or readily usable by bad actors due to poor security or lack of any kind of self-enforcing of nefarious behaviors. That has implications with respect to the countries it is hosted out of. After that I'd like it to be founded on open source software on the full stack. We can go into further levels of idealism but I'm looking for the intersection of these things and usability and affordability.

Hi, Sorry to make you even more worried but the HUMAN BIOLOGICAL BRAIN CODE was decrypted in the 1960's by LISITSYN et al.
See ENERGETICS , The WOODPECKER SIGNALS etc.LISITSYN'S REPORT;BRAIN CODE BROKEN

@Eduardo Castillo Hi ! to me the most serious for privacy and results is Searx. For better privacy, it's necessary to enter in "options" and enable images proxy.which is not enabled by default

I don't want my programs to be Open Source, that's right wing Libertarianism. I want Free Software.

Let's not forget scuttlebutt as an alternative

:) <3 @b1ackbird Ⓐ.D.

I think that a client/server architecture for social networks is always going to be problematic...even if the servers are decentralized (and of course libre software).

Servers require people skilled enough to maintain them, need to have bandwidth paid for etc. The more users that are on a server, the more computing resources are needed.

What we really need is true decentralized "peer to peer" social networks where there are no servers as such. Each person's own computer, tablet or smartphone becomes the "server"...serving up whatever information the computer owner feels like sharing.

That way a social network becomes truly scalable because the computing power is in the end node and not in the centre (or centres!).

Ideally, it should be as easy as possible for the end user in the node to administer and run a piece of software on the users own computing device.

That is what we really need. But of course I realize that such a system doesn't exist yet.

In the meantime, the decentralized federated libre software client/server networks like Diaspora, Mastodon etc. fill an important gap.

So something like a #tangle like #Iota?

@Heiner Mustermann I am using Riot/Matrix. Still a bit rough around the edges but getting better.

#TelepathicCommunication not far away:

https://singularityhub.com/2018/01/14/this-neural-network-built-by-japanese-researchers-can-read-minds/

Get your tinfoil hats ready :)

#deleteGmail #deleteHotmail #deleteYahoo join #Protonmail

@Brunus, what a nice initiative¡¡
I propose #DeleteEveryFuckingShitService and come to FreeSoftware and decentralized world. ;-)

#protonmail is ran by a corporation. disroot, riseup, lautre.net, zaclys and selfhosting are ran by volunteers :)

.. delete one single point of failure to change to on another one .. nice try! ..

what's so special about proton anyway, it's email isn't it?

Hi M, It was started by scientists at CERN, SWITZERLAND. Read what they say.
It is not possible to open on SOLARIS..... Dhan

can i use it with #deltachat?

Hi M, I don't know..... Dhan

theodotos@joindiaspora.com
what do you mean with
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Still a bit rough around the edges

can you give details
thanks

Riot is in beta right now
Negative things I know of:
-encryption is optional, not default; riot warns you that encrypted messages might get lost because it's beta.
-Riot is based on the Open protocol Matrix. Riot/Matrix is pushed by a company, not volunteers. Some say that's bad, some say it's okay.
-in Riot right now some Google stuff is used, what you obviously don't want. Developers are aware and want to get rid of it in the future

Ich have Riot installed on Android and Windows PC and I like it.

katalysator@diaspora.town

Thanks for you interessting facts…
Google stuff, company not vounteers sounds not so good…

how does this company wants to make money at the ende?

@Heiner Mustermann things like group encryption do not work as expected, irc integrationhas some bugs... But getting there.

@Heiner Mustermann
I don't have an answer for that.
For the people/company behind matrix it's probably a good start with what they say of themselves in their FAQ: https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#who-is-funding-matrixorg

I also don't know, if these people are the same who develop the Riot client.

Also, this might be worth a look:
https://matrix.org/blog/2018/01/29/status-partners-up-with-new-vector-fueling-decentralised-comms-and-the-matrix-ecosystem/

I seem to have slightly different priorities than some of you guys. I do not mind using software created and published by a company - provided it is open source. In that sense, I do not mind paying for software either. As a nice man once said: Programmers like to eat. To me there is nothing bad about people writing software and selling it. Using code contributed by Google isn't evil either per se, because if it's open, I can see what it does and if it spies on me.
Software like Riot, Whatsapp and the like have to be open source (not free) for me to fully trust them - and it has to stay that way for every version of the software! Who knows what a new version of a software could do that was not in the audit a while back.
This doesn't mean, I wouldn't trust any piece of closed source software at all. I would trust Threema (what you pay for and where the company is dedicated to protecting privacy and has no ties with companies interested in your data) more than Whatsapp (Which may be encrypted, but it belongs to a company that is dedicated on gathering information on its users to make money with).
@Hank G:
The considerations you had for the choice you made are pretty close to mine. It's true that I have a certain level of idealism, but my main concern was usability. XMPP is a well-known and well-tested protocol and it works. The Conversations client looks and feels a lot like Whatsapp (slightly different colour scheme). Ok, you need an XMPP-account and need to exchange the information about these accounts before you can chat (doesn't work via the phone numbers). But I can live with that. The decentral organization to me is not only idealism but a guarantee that one entity cannot control the whole system. If one server dies, the people there can find a new one and reconnect to their friends - provided they weren't on the same server. :-) This was not my prime concern when chosing the system, but it was a nice bonus. And as I mentioned, on that business trip to China it also meant that messages still arrived just fine.

@Bob Chandler:
I don't agree with you in the extent of your view. The "end"-clients (opperated by the users) will always go offline from time to time. This can because they are phones on lossy networks or because people just turn off their computers from time to time. To save energy, this is acutally a good idea.
So instead of everybody running their own server that uses power 24/7, is makes much more sense to have servers that many people use. This not only saves energy, it also means that if a computer or phone client goes offline, the data is stored on the server until the client is online again.

@Bob Chandler
All in all, I agree with you.
But, when you say "...Software like Riot, Whatsapp and the like have to be open source (not free) for me to fully trust them..." you are showing the only one and huge difference I have with you. Because I think that software should be Free (as in Freedom).
Maybe you know this article, otherwise please allow me to suggest reading ti.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

I'm not against paying for software per say, so much as if I think I can build (or in Punk circles, what they call DIY) what could otherwise only be built for a ridiculous expense, I'm probably going to build it myself unless given some compelling reason otherwise.

Ex. There is no reason Windows or Red Hat should cost anywhere near as much as it does. I doubt seriously that kind of money is going to individual programmers, and goes toward a company that's a routine tax evader.

But say, if someone developed a gardening robot or aquaponics system with free software, I'd plunk out some cash just for the artistic effort.

i'm looking forward to gnu taler getting around more. anonymous payments. free software.

Hi,** If the BIG BOYS realy "get-on-your-case" there is very little you can do and nearly all "security" is useless.
Read about CASUAL ROBOTS, "QUANTUM POTENTIALS" etc.**
.... Dhan

@Sego_Tux:
You quoted the wrong guy. That was from me. :-)
I know Richard Stallman's standpoint quite well. In many things, I agree with him. However, I consider him to be a fanatic, which isn't always a good thing - even if he means well.
Freedom is a two-way street. This means that not only should the freedom of the users be considered, but also the freedom of the creator. There are numerous examples where the programmers income dropped dramatically one the software was made free. This contradicts Stallman's view that free software has very few drawbacks compared to commercial software (from the view of the person making a living by programming it). Bryan Lunduke did a talk on this subject and referred to making a piece of software he wrote open source (and free) as "opening a giant can of suckball". He often also refers to the Ardure project and the rather thin donations it receives, despite the fact that the software is very capable.
I also do not agree with the GPL, especially V3. The GPL is a viral license which takes rights away from the creators. Once you have put a piece of software under the GPL you have effectively donated it to the FSF. Do I like free software? Hell yeah! Have I published free software? Yes I have. But the GPL just is not the license I'd choose. I'd use something less fanatic like the LGPL, the Apache license or the BSD license.

@Digit
I'm not sure, TALER will take off. It's a little cumbersome to use and I think the tax part will hold off a lot of the bigger guys.

teething difficulties aside, gnu taler does have the right idea.

also looking forward to UBI knocking more wind out of the sails of the arguments in favour of denying user's their freedom in favour of the norm of economic coercion.

we dont really need to all be victim co-perpetrators.

WE MAKE DATA LOVE

@Digit
I didn’t understand you last comment. :-(

that is sad indeed. those who feel the sharper stinging end of inegalitarian strife likely understand it all too well.

Hi, Sure there are problems with OPEN SOURCE especially in the OVER-UNITY ( "FREE-ENERGY" ) ENERGY area.
"He who pays the Piper calls the tune".
PATENTS are also another realy huge problem and a big illusion. They seriously hinder development , for example.
But who will seriously and consistently develop software over an extended period of time.
Beer is incredibly easy to make and many try, once or twice, but then they lose interest.
Also it depends on how much money people expect to make with their software / invention etc.
For me , a reasonable living with something saved for the future is enough..... Dhan

If you are trying to tell me, that I am not a part of the victim-culture: good! I do not consider myself to be one and I hope I never am. I certainly am not going to become one so I can complain about my situation.
In any case: Unless you a trying to rewrite the bible or some other dumb religious text, make yourself clear. Vagueness is only helpful to priests.

@Dhan Hurley
The amount in question for Ardour is something like 90k€ per year - for not just one developer. Noone is getting rich of this.

Hi Christian, That is expensive.... Dhan

@Christian Baer
I see your point. And I know that from a factual point what you say is the real world for many people. However, I really think that the problem is not the point of view of people such as Richard Stallman but the economy system we are in. I know, maybe we can not change that easily, or even we will not be able to change that in our whole lives but it does not mean that the problem was a model in which everybody can contribute and help their neighbour but an economic system which only values money. That is why Free Software is a social movement. :-)

If you are trying to tell me, that I am not a part of the victim-culture: good! I do not consider myself to be one and I hope I never am. I certainly am not going to become one so I can complain about my situation.
In any case: Unless you a trying to rewrite the bible or some other dumb religious text, make yourself clear. Vagueness is only helpful to priests.

wow.

@Sego_Tux
I don't really disagree with you, however, I do live in reality. :-)
We won't change the economic system we live in any time soon. As I said before, software developers like to eat and would like a certain social status. Both are achieved with money and not so much with community work. This is not me approving, this is me just stating the facts. I do a lot of community work (without getting paid of course) and thus I know that noone cares about that. The fact that I have a well-paid and socially valued job in an engineering-firm does a lot more for how people perceive me.
While I admire lots of social movements (and think quite a few of them are just plain stupid), I can respect anyone who wants to see his family fed and clothed before he goes on any kind of idealism journey.

Ah yes, I'm not idealistic. I just expect disabled people to pick themselves up by their bootstraps kind of programmer.

I'm familiar with those all to well.

Hi, Money isn't so much the problem. It's who makes and controls it that is the main problem.... Dhan

@Christian Baer I disagree with you on the GPL issue. The issue of software freedom and financing software freedom are two separate issues in my view.

First of all we free software users need to become much more generous with our contributions to our favorite free software projects. Although I have donated to a number of free software projects myself, I will confess that I have not been as generous as perhaps I could be.

Perhaps this week if we haven't done so already, each one of us participating in this thread could perhaps contribute ten dollars, pounds, euros or whatever it is that you use in your country or whatever other amount you can afford.

But, as well, the free/libre software community also needs to become a little bit better at fundraising i.e. something a little more than just putting a "donate here" button on the project website.

For example, I sometimes hear of government departments adopting Libre Office and installing it on hundreds or thousands of PC's.

Why not directly ask these government IT departments to contribute as little as a dollar or a euro per computer to the project? Install Libre Office on 5,000 computers? Donate 5,000 euros to the project. They would spend much more on licensing Microsoft Office!

I looked at the annual financial statements for The Document Foundation. They function on about 800,000 euros per year! That's peanuts for a global project.

I was working on a project recently that involved fundraising. The volunteers were instructed that if someone agreed to donate $100, ask them for $200. Half the time they'd agree to donate the $200! If you never ask, you'll never know!

I quite agree that developers need to eat and pay the rent. We need to enable them to do that without sacrificing the liberty of users.

You really think so?

Agreed that DDG has #issues...

maybe add:

#deleteAzure - join #NextCloud
#deleteOneDrive - join #NextCloud
#deleteAWS - join #nextCloud
#deleteGoogleDrive - join #nextCloud
add #Pleroma to the Mastodon line
#deleteGoogleTranslate -- join #deepl

https://blog.soykaf.com/post/what-is-pleroma/

@prep: I <3 #NextCloud!
Do you know #Syncthing? That is another great solution to synchronize between your computers, see https://syncthing.net/ The data is directly synchronized between your devices. Which is a quite great thing.

Wow that's interesting. I might look into that.